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America's New Stimulus Package
By: Zacks Investment Research   Monday, January 19, 2009 12:45 PM

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The stimulus package is likely to help companies like Emerson Electric (EMR), General Electric (GE), Jacobs Engineering (JEC), Chicago Bridge & Iron (CBI) and Caterpillar (CAT).

We now have a rough outline of what the economic stimulus package will look at. The total size is set at $825 billion. Here are the key components, along with my thoughts on each (or at least most) of them:

Tax Cuts - $275 Billion:

Cutting payroll taxes by $500 per individual and $1,000 per family. Not the best bang for the buck, since much of it may be used to pay down debt or otherwise be saved. However it seems like a good idea in any case.

Restoring the balance sheet of the household sector, particularly of the lower and middle parts of the income spectrum would be a very good thing for the economy in the long run. In their role as taxpayers, individuals would be taking on debt at about 3% or less, and in their role as consumers might be paying down debt with rates as high as 18% if they pay down credit cards. Nice interest rate arbitrage there.

The package also includes tax loss carry backs of 5 years instead of the usual two for corporations. This looks like a total waste of money to me. The biggest beneficiaries would be banks and homebuilders.

We are doing lots already to help the banks, and honestly the economy needs to see most of the big homebuilders go out of business so excess inventories can be worked off. Accelerated depreciation or greater expensing of capital assets would be a better way to aid businesses and stimulate the economy. To my mind, this is the weakest part of the whole package.

Aid to States - $119 Billion:

The biggest part of this is to help states pay for Medicaid at $87 billion. There is also $25 billion targeted to help maintain public safety and other critical services, and $7 billion directly targeted to help keep law enforcement going.

States are generally prohibited by their constitutions from running deficits (although they have been able to find ways around that in the past) and have seen two of their biggest revenue sources dry up, sales taxes and property taxes. Without aid they would have to dramatically cut back on services, laying off many state workers and adding to the unemployment roles.

In some states like California, the projected deficits are so deep that the hole could not be filled even by cutting more than 75% of employees.

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2/5/2009 4:22:17 PM
by Brittania
I  wish you would tell it the way it really is. Theres nothing but a bunch of pork in this. I'm ashamed of the way the government is carrying on spending our money.   Why don't they do something that actually will help the economy.
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Brittania I see you are like a lot of those people on the hill in Washington. That our called Republicans Its all pork unless you voted for it or him.
i don't have the $800 million dollar to run for president for one. I also want to know one thing from you what exactly makes obama "more advance then any of our formal presidents and you too." Finnally just so you know for the future the way that sentence should read is more ADVANCED than any of our FORMER presidents.
sry i placed the 800 million dollar reply and that reply was suppose to be for the first post on the next page it is not to you SRY.
Hi Brittania/Hope OBahma read's This Brittania/To the point we all got laid off. Some forced into Retirement.The Only People That I Know R pissed About Stimulas Check's R the people that did'nt get any.Understandable. But if I and the 3,o21 co work'ers Did'nt get them. Brittannia It would of Started a complete Braek Down.From home owner's paying there mortgage.To Renter's not being able to rent.THAT'S JUST THE SMALL PART OF THE CIRCLE. I was Praying For just one chance.To pay one more Mo Of Rent.Brittannia I know this goverment well.I believe U do to You should start your own Site. Brittania TY dzryderyahoo.com
2/9/2009 9:30:46 AM
hi by Aaron
hello
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Hey you know what your talking bout...people really do need to realize we all helped cause this now its up to us and Obama to fix it...
2/9/2009 12:05:47 PM
CEO by Robbie
As the owner of a small company. I see nothing in there for helping small companies. So as a result the owners will have to cut down on employees in order to keep up. That leads to more depressed economy and more layoffs. I just dont get it.
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To give a true reply i would need to know what business you are in.
2/9/2009 12:44:54 PM
We need to give Obama a chance. by sheila
It is not obama fault,  That this country is in such a mess.  Its Bushes.  I We give Obama a chance he could turn this mess around for the better.  My feeling is the United States need to step up and take charge of the Americans and leave the other country to take care of there own.  We need to take controll of the welfair program and get the lazy american that are able to work,  working and not living on the tax payers.  And start helping americans who work for a living and not those who dont.  We need to start taking care of our elderly more and come up with a program that would help them with medical and medication and food.  I am a mother of 4 boys three of wich are in the military.  My oldest was in Irac serving.. He has said they are the most hateful and do not respect americans one bit.. So, why,  take care of our own.  Make our children grow to be leaders and to Love our country as the elderly was taught!!!
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I will say this, it isnt bushs fault either it is the guy that opened free trade (nafta) that is where we went wrong. This country is due to be humbled and that includes the government and the people that are attempting to live in it, self included. We are spoiled, selfish and lazy. All we do is want more and more and want to do less for it. If every person actually played with there kids and lived within their means we wouldnt be in such a hurt. I am glad this is happening, families will again rely eachother and be more a family like back when my grandmother was growing up.....This gives me great hope that maybe my children will be okay.....we the people of the united states of america need to stand up and pledge allegence and pray and raise our kids and spend time with our families and we will be fine........
Sheila don't worry we have to give a chance we have no choice.
One of the reply's some how seems wrong how can any one be glad that this has happened and hurt so may people in so many ways. And then talks about the need to Pray I will for you.
I thin you forgot the Congress you know the LOWEST rated Congress he had for the last 4 years?? OBAMA.. should have NEVER let money spending Pelosi NEAR the bill.. but OBAMA did.. not BUSH.. now your kids and Grandkids will be paying.. like the payback for ACORN!! That was a pure slap in the face of EVERY AMAERICAN. regardless of party.. We now pay for an organization that is under investigation in many states. And I agree on the WELFARE.. Help for only those who Can't work.. NOT those who don't want to work.. And Thank you for the sacrifices that your children are making for AMERICA... by serving..
2/9/2009 6:55:11 PM
both sides are wrong by paul
It is neither Obama's or Bush"s fault for what is going on , Put the blame where it really belongs- the federal reserve bank- a private central bank that isn't controlled by the government , has no oversight by anyone. created the bubble and bust of american family farms in the 70's(80% of which are now corp farms owned by the very companies that are stockholders of the fed,created the bubble and bust of housing late 90's to 00's(letting people who couldn't even afford an apartment ,let along a morgage get 100% no money down, the morgage brokers didn't care, because the rules were changed as to the rating of the loans that were bought buy investment banks and sold to unsupecting investers as a solid investment, (look at your 401k statement)all the while the fed is getting 4 1/2 % for every dollar they loan the government. Sorry to say unless the fed is removed from it's ablity to manipulate the economics of this country and the treasury dept put back in controll of printing money at no interest charged, will we ever be free, instead of slaves to the central banking monopolys.
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I do believe you have something there. We made our bed, and now we have to lye in it. I don't want to say it, but that should be handled by our government even though it is to big now. This country has become all about money and people will steal, cheat, and lie to get it. We need the New Pres. more now then ever to find out who those people are and find a new fail safe way to operate the major parts of our economy. Because what we have didn't work out to well for us.
I agree, the fed reserve IS a private bank, and not at all concerned with anything but thier profit, thier future, and monopolizing not only our country's wealth, but eventually the worlds, it will be one world bank and they will own it. The owners of the fed reserve, (another name for a big rock, and a queer name for a guy) have been planning it since the 1800's. Its already in the works. Check it out www.zeitgeistmovie.com just know, I'm not a activist, radicalist, just an informed everyday working man concerned for his childrens future.
2/9/2009 9:29:03 PM
wheres the money coming from? by steve
the question i have is where is the money coming from to fund this stimulus package because it doesnt make sense to print money because of inflation and if the money is borrowed it doesnt make sense to add to our debt...
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It is coming from us, the tax payers and what the government makes off of all the taxes that everyone pays. This country keeps going in debt with all this imaginary money that we produce to try and stimulate I don't know what. Instead of wasting all of this time figuring out how to fix it, they need to give all of this money to those who need it. Small government is dead, and the middle class has to sit back and let those who have enough money to be heard help those in power that can fix it make these decsions.
2/10/2009 6:56:07 AM
Well by ulis
This two years will be the toughest two yet just get ready for the ride if u can afford it......
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2/11/2009 3:35:49 PM
by
I will say this, it isnt bushs fault either it is the guy that opened free trade (nafta) that is where we went wrong. This country is due to be humbled and that includes the government and the people that are attempting to live in it, self included. We are spoiled, selfish and lazy. All we do is want more and more and want to do less for it. If every person actually played with there kids and lived within their means we wouldnt be in such a hurt. I am glad this is happening, families will again rely eachother and be more a family like back when my grandmother was growing up.....This gives me great hope that maybe my children will be okay.....we the people of the united states of america need to stand up and pledge allegence and pray and raise our kids and spend time with our families and we will be fine........
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2/11/2009 3:46:20 PM
humble pie by vince
It has been along time coming.....we have been due to be humbled. We are selfish, lazy and want more and more for less and less. What has happened to this countries pride. We dont raise our kids we dont pray we dont respect and we are not thankful. We have got to stop and live within our means and raise our children, have movie nights and go camping. Go to the park and run around with our kids. We are only concerned about ons self and nothing else......Enjoy your humble pie folks because I think we are getting a piece each. Get the me out of you and make it WE. I have lived within my means and yea it has still been tuff but man I keep on trying and I dont have my hand out saying what about me. Stop crying and start doing....
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2/12/2009 8:27:20 AM
WHY DID WE LET IT HAPPEN by Roy
Its is so funny how we all like to point the finger at ever one else. If your republican its Obama's fault if your a democrat its Bush. The real fault lies at your own door step. It's called WE THE PEOPLE. We elect the men and women that write the laws and control the foolish spending that has been going on for years. The word pork is a term that i will leave to the clowns in Washington i like to call it what it is out of control spending. Is this stimulus package the answer i'm not sure but we delt our selves this had so we will just have to play it out. But one thing i do know we live in a country were we need to stand as one and if we are in a sinking ship lets all go down together lets not start throwing people over board. These men and women that our in washington that allowed the tarp bill to be passed with no over sight at all to Wallstreet now it seem's they don't want to even try two help the common people. There is no way everthing in this package is gowing to help but i can't belive that there not some good in it also. At this point its a done deal. So know WE THE PEOPLE can lie in our bed. 
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2/12/2009 8:34:14 AM
WHY DID WE LET IT HAPPEN by Roy
To give a true reply i would need to know what business you are in.
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2/12/2009 8:43:11 AM
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Brittania I see you are like a lot of those people on the hill in Washington. That our called Republicans Its all pork unless you voted for it or him.
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2/12/2009 8:44:53 AM
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Sheila don't worry we have to give a chance we have no choice.
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2/12/2009 8:50:37 AM
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One of the reply's some how seems wrong how can any one be glad that this has happened and hurt so may people in so many ways. And then talks about the need to Pray I will for you.
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2/12/2009 10:06:04 AM
??? by frost
i am extremely bored. this crap is so stupid. why cant we just drop all our debt and start over with a clean slate? that would be the best thing to do, wouldnt it?
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yes i compeletly agree
I agree
2/14/2009 12:11:44 AM
by Frank
Wow, I have the feeling that all we can do is sit back and watch all of this government spend all of our hard earned money and send it where they want without any discretion.  We might have elected all these people, but decisions like this are reasons people have protested or even causes for country's to have civil wars.  I just think there is a better way a governing rather than letting all of these Capital Hill babies choose whats right for us.  WE THE PEOPLE should have a say so, thats what this country was based on, but somewhere down the line, we let all these Liberals tell us what we can't say, what we can't do, what we can't do!  I don't believe that our country has lived up to what our Fourfathers intended.  We as citizens of the finest country in the world has let this happen to ourselves.  The only way to fix it, is to come together as a Country and everyone(even the lazy, don't want to work, live off the government, system cheating, and complaining yuppies) come together and help build this economy and country back to what it once was.  And also, I don't care who you are, if you live here(USA), you should pay taxes and speak english like the rest of us.  I am sick of watching all these of these people around me getting a free ride because they are a minority.  There isn't such a thing.  You are a citizen, so act like one!!!
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2/14/2009 12:25:11 AM
by Frank
I do believe you have something there. We made our bed, and now we have to lye in it. I don't want to say it, but that should be handled by our government even though it is to big now. This country has become all about money and people will steal, cheat, and lie to get it. We need the New Pres. more now then ever to find out who those people are and find a new fail safe way to operate the major parts of our economy. Because what we have didn't work out to well for us.
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2/14/2009 12:47:09 AM
by Jon
The stimulus package is not going to stimulate the economy like planned.  It dindt work that well the first time and wont work again.  Families are so hurt that they will be using all this money to pay off bills and credit card debt.  And they wont go back out with that extra to spend they will try to save up for more bills or pay off other bills.  If anything the government should give those families a 5  year period to pay off those debts with no interest or late charges.  All the late charges banks add on are accumulating faster than payments being made.  They change the due dates two weeks earlier to catch you off guard and yoru screwed.  This then leads to your APR jumping up from 5% all the way to 23-30% thats ABSURD>   Anyways back to my point giving the 5 year grace period of no late charges or interest rates would allow some faimilies to get on track and pay when they can.  Instead of families desperately trying to pay off late fees they can actually pay off the amounts.  THere needs to be an established due date for minium payments and the banks should not be allowed to change the payment date only tosend out a notice which you get maybe a week before your new payment due date.  There needs to be at least a 6 month warning to all of the people.  The banks are the ones screwing us over, there hurting for it too, and yet we try to buy them out before we will help the BIG 3 auto industry.  Not saying i agree or disagree with the bailout for GM and Chrysler, but still where are our minds and goals at.  This is no recession it is a depression.  Indiana Unemployment rate 15% Michigan was around 10% last time I was looking.  The midwest is HURTING.  Its sad to know that almost all of the weatlh in the United States is owned by a VERY VERY small percentage of people.  We are looked at as a wealthy nation? yet really theres only a few people out there who are wealthy.  I think its great for them to want to share with the rest of the world when we are all struggling, but yet at the same time the government forcing people to GIVE because they do so well is not really that fair.  Although its the rest of the nation and world that is there to make them rich so it would only be natural and human to help others out.  We are a nation who began and survived with helping hands from each other, now this generation and society is falling apart and we are all becoming independent and forgetting our core values.  In my own personal oppinion giving people credit has been the worst decision ever.  Credit Cards are a war themselves.  They are a privelage not a right, yet people treat them like there nothing.  Famalies survive off of debt??  Everythigns paid off with debt back and forth.  Famalies are given a credit line way past what they could ever afford and will buy a $1500 tv all on credit and pay it off maybe in 15 years?  everything is done wiht credit and its just not smart.  You have to work for things and save up for them But our generation is independent NOW we cant wait.  We are so impatient and like more than a visual but to actually bring it home the day of.  Its going to take a lot more than an economic stimulus to save this country from its debt.  I pray for the best and whether or not I like or dislike the president, He is the elected leader.  Whether he be Bush or Obama, he is there to serve and you need to respect whomever may be in office.  They are elected to lead and can only make changes they see with permission and acceptance.  So if you veto or deny every change they want to make you will never see any changes.  So that just goes to show you not all changes and things in the economy are to blame on one person, as stated earlier we the PEople are responsible, your house and senate leaders and representitives are who really help make major changes.  For something to change we must all believe and fight towards that similar goal.  Republican democrat independent we all must come together if we ever hope to succedd or make it through this as a country.  We will either succeed as a whole or all fail.  There is no one triumphant man.
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Okay, the elected so called "Leader" can only pass these bill's around the house, and the rest of the house passes them around, and whether they are passed or not, and yes they are changes, but I see one HUGE problem. The people whom work on and write these bills/laws/reforms/changes, or whatever you want to call them. A really important thing in life has been forgotten. When you are fixing someone-else's problem, you don't fix it from your perspective, or their perspective, you have to take a step back, look, and re-assess. When you get stuck in a particular occupation with particular people for 1-10-20 year's, you begin to get narrow minded and work about thing's from the norm perspective. I guess what I'm trying to say is instead of letting the government write our bill's, law's, reform's and such, and then the same people pass them, why don't they propose them to the public, let us vote on them, and if we can't come to an agreement about the law's, take all them, put them together, analyze them with true fact's, revise them, propose them again, and the public vote on them again, and repeat the process until it is resolved. They work for us, we don't work for them. The real deal is that they are only keeping those a-float who provide them with their pension's and weekly check's, which would be us, in a smaller way as a whole, in a larger way in individual large monopolizing corporation's. Why borrow over $800,000,000,000.00 from foreign countries and ourselves when the owner's and CEO's of the companies, plus crooked official's have this kind of money chillin' in their swiss bank account's, their mansion's, fire-proof safe's, car's, summer houses, vacation retreat's, private jet's, stock's, bond's, shit, I could go on for-ever with all of the places these guy's stash their billion's. The sad part is, we are still paying for them to be rich while we have family and friends starving or freezing on the street because we have to choose between food or shelter, no car's, insurance for them or our health, gas money to cruise in or commute to work, clothing, telephone to receive the call from employer you just applied for, college tuition and book's, medicine, glasses or contact's if you need them, $3,000 for a monthly prescription for your average bi-polar person, (most cases are push-off's meaning false diagnosis, or improper diagnosis)
2/14/2009 12:48:03 AM
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It is coming from us, the tax payers and what the government makes off of all the taxes that everyone pays. This country keeps going in debt with all this imaginary money that we produce to try and stimulate I don't know what. Instead of wasting all of this time figuring out how to fix it, they need to give all of this money to those who need it. Small government is dead, and the middle class has to sit back and let those who have enough money to be heard help those in power that can fix it make these decsions.
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2/14/2009 12:59:52 AM
Granny by Julie Patton
I have to say that we, the American people, have been duped again.  Sometimes change can be for the worse, be careful what you vote for. I am a registered Dem and I voted  my last Dem. vote
when I voted for Clinton, and he did not have sexual relations with that woman.  I did vote for Hillary in the primary because I felt she would be the better choice over O'Bama, but John McCain would have made the most down to earth and honorable president, but no one cares for honesty and decency any more.  I watch Nancy Pulosi, the woman isn't living in the real world, take a look at her eyes, they are big wide and BLANK, and all she can do is roll them around like marbles. 
She is glueless as to what the American people need, I am sick of all of this.  O'Bama is a liar, and when his term is up, the American people are going to be so sick of looking at his big ears, they will begin to throwup everytime they see him.  I do already,  even his swaggering walk up to the podium during press conferences makes me a little sick. They are railroading the American people, and why they think he is next the Messiah himself, I cannot figure it out.  This stimulus package, even with a high school education, isn't hard to figure out.  PORK, PORK, PORK. SPEND, SPEND, SPEND. The Dems are ruining our children's future. I think I love my children more than the O'Bamas, don't you, they won't be able to make enough to have anything, and the future for  them will be bleak.  You can't spread the wealth and give people real security.  Yes the economy is bad, but I really think we can tighten up our belts a little, drop them cell phones that everybody carries around, get rid of the computer DSLs, stay out of the stores unless you really have to go.  Work at anything you can find.  Housecleaning is honest work and pays pretty good, baby sitting, stop eating out so much, pinto beans are still healthy, sell your fourwheeler and get rid of one of the three cars your paying for, stop smoking and drinking, right there you could loosen up two to four hundred dollars or more a month. Thirteen dollars more in take home pay, well lets see, that is a gallon of milk, 1 loaf of bread, and maybe a package of bacon, and you call this change you can see?  Stop dreaming about going to bed with this guy and get real, this is serious, I want more for my children, don't you?
Poor little Nancy Pulosi, that is all I have got to say there.  This stimulus package stinks and is only going to help the ones who don't need it.  You will not notice anything substantial quickly in your daily life or needs, but I tell you what, your children and grandchildren will which will not be pretty, and we are so selfish but oh well, it's every generation for himself.  No one seems to care.  Talk about inflation, I went to Walmart this evening, spent $139.00 on nothing, I had three little bags and a few trays of dog and cat food.
That is inflation, well just triple that a few times by the time our grandchildren grow up.  We can't afford to pass this stimulus package, we don't have room to fail, because no matter what it will have to be paid back, and guess who will be  the ones to have to do it.  Sad, Sad.  If they pass this completely, which seems it is a done deal, and did not read it, or check on this thing, what are they doing in Washington, because they sure aren't doing anything for my family or future children.  894 billion dollars, I can't believe it, and all for nothing. 

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2/14/2009 1:04:25 AM
get real by reality in the mountains
I have to say that we, the American people, have been duped again.  Sometimes change can be for the worse, be careful what you vote for. I am a registered Dem and I voted  my last Dem. vote
when I voted for Clinton, and he did not have sexual relations with that woman.  I did vote for Hillary in the primary because I felt she would be the better choice over O'Bama, but John McCain would have made the most down to earth and honorable president, but no one cares for honesty and decency any more.  I watch Nancy Pulosi, the woman isn't living in the real world, take a look at her eyes, they are big wide and BLANK, and all she can do is roll them around like marbles. 
She is glueless as to what the American people need, I am sick of all of this.  O'Bama is a liar, and when his term is up, the American people are going to be so sick of looking at his big ears, they will begin to throwup everytime they see him.  I do already,  even his swaggering walk up to the podium during press conferences makes me a little sick. They are railroading the American people, and why they think he is next the Messiah himself, I cannot figure it out.  This stimulus package, even with a high school education, isn't hard to figure out.  PORK, PORK, PORK. SPEND, SPEND, SPEND. The Dems are ruining our children's future. I think I love my children more than the O'Bamas, don't you, they won't be able to make enough to have anything, and the future for  them will be bleak.  You can't spread the wealth and give people real security.  Yes the economy is bad, but I really think we can tighten up our belts a little, drop them cell phones that everybody carries around, get rid of the computer DSLs, stay out of the stores unless you really have to go.  Work at anything you can find.  Housecleaning is honest work and pays pretty good, baby sitting, stop eating out so much, pinto beans are still healthy, sell your fourwheeler and get rid of one of the three cars your paying for, stop smoking and drinking, right there you could loosen up two to four hundred dollars or more a month. Thirteen dollars more in take home pay, well lets see, that is a gallon of milk, 1 loaf of bread, and maybe a package of bacon, and you call this change you can see?  Stop dreaming about going to bed with this guy and get real, this is serious, I want more for my children, don't you?
Poor little Nancy Pulosi, that is all I have got to say there.  This stimulus package stinks and is only going to help the ones who don't need it.  You will not notice anything substantial quickly in your daily life or needs, but I tell you what, your children and grandchildren will which will not be pretty, and we are so selfish but oh well, it's every generation for himself.  No one seems to care.  Talk about inflation, I went to Walmart this evening, spent $139.00 on nothing, I had three little bags and a few trays of dog and cat food.
That is inflation, well just triple that a few times by the time our grandchildren grow up.  We can't afford to pass this stimulus package, we don't have room to fail, because no matter what it will have to be paid back, and guess who will be  the ones to have to do it.  Sad, Sad.  If they pass this completely, which seems it is a done deal, and did not read it, or check on this thing, what are they doing in Washington, because they sure aren't doing anything for my family or future children.  894 billion dollars, I can't believe it, and all for nothing. 

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Spoken like a true republican.
You sound a mountain red-neck.....
You sound like a two year old..
A true republican that does not have the worries about money that real people do and can go spend 139.00 on nothing.
All you democrats need to stop trying to critizie him. You all are the ones that sound like children. it makes you look insecure when you make fun of other people in order to feel superior. Didn't you learn that in elementry?... I completely agree with you. Where is the Tnews reports i've been hearing are getting worse and worse; not better. I just hope that whatever change he promises doesn't crash this country. As said before, we will all go down. And i'm sure one of those people below has children that are going to college or some other form of higher education. I wonder how they are going to pay for it with the way the everything is going...
2/14/2009 1:33:28 AM
Where is it going anyways! by Frank
I would like to know truly where all of this $800+ Billion dollars are going.  Hopefully not to the banks that got rich off the start of this downfall in our economy.  Are they going to take it like they did the the last $350 Billion dollars they recieved that didn't help anything.  Do you know they could have gave every taxpaying household and gave them all $50,000, and it still wouldn't have totaled up $800 Billion.  We need a new Democracy!  If we could round up enough people to take a couple minutes out of our time to come together and speak out together as a United Front, we could show Washington what we as citizens and taxpayers believe is right for ourselves.  We live in the real world, not capitol hill, and sometimes I think those who make the decisions for us have lost touch with reality, and forgot they are there for us, not themselves.  If anyone out there has an idea on how to get our views at least put into consideration.  If the citizens of this country were to vote on this stimulus package, i gaurantee no more than 10% of people would vote yes, so we need a new way of governing to try and make some kind of difference.
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i love that idea lets march and protest (peacefully of corse) and let the government see where the power really lies. (not just us though we would have to get millions of people) but you let me know the time and the place and i will be there.
2/14/2009 11:31:29 AM
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I agree, the fed reserve IS a private bank, and not at all concerned with anything but thier profit, thier future, and monopolizing not only our country's wealth, but eventually the worlds, it will be one world bank and they will own it. The owners of the fed reserve, (another name for a big rock, and a queer name for a guy) have been planning it since the 1800's. Its already in the works. Check it out www.zeitgeistmovie.com just know, I'm not a activist, radicalist, just an informed everyday working man concerned for his childrens future.
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2/16/2009 9:42:40 AM
by Tom
so will the american taxpayer actually see any direct help like last years stimulus check?
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probably not all ive heard is that it is going to be a payroll taxcut.
2/16/2009 3:32:24 PM
by Carol
To hell with giving all this money to these big companies that pay out millions in bonuses. Just give the money to the tax payers. The more money they give to the public the more money they spend on paying bills or mortgages.
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2/16/2009 3:35:43 PM
by Carol
probably not all ive heard is that it is going to be a payroll taxcut.
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2/16/2009 7:43:52 PM
by
Spoken like a true republican.
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2/16/2009 7:48:49 PM
by
You sound a mountain red-neck.....
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2/16/2009 7:50:08 PM
by
You sound like a two year old..
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2/17/2009 9:19:05 AM
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I thin you forgot the Congress you know the LOWEST rated Congress he had for the last 4 years?? OBAMA.. should have NEVER let money spending Pelosi NEAR the bill.. but OBAMA did.. not BUSH.. now your kids and Grandkids will be paying.. like the payback for ACORN!! That was a pure slap in the face of EVERY AMAERICAN. regardless of party.. We now pay for an organization that is under investigation in many states. And I agree on the WELFARE.. Help for only those who Can't work.. NOT those who don't want to work.. And Thank you for the sacrifices that your children are making for AMERICA... by serving..
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2/17/2009 10:48:59 AM
yikes by smutty
why  dont   we  get   to  vote on  the  stimulus package---after   all  it  is  our  money???     jobs   by    2011???    we  need  jobs   yesterday
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2/17/2009 4:27:01 PM
I don't see any help for people like me by Pamela
I keep reading all this stuff and I don't see much help for people like me. I am 51, I worked hard and paid for my home, I work hard, I can barely pay my eletric and heating bills, I can't get any help for anyone(food stamps. engery asst. nothing) and sometimes I go without food. I seem to fall between the cracks .  The goverment is giving all that money to the banks and auto people,what about all of us that worked all our lives to give the goverment this money, the auto  people will never come back, people do not have the money to buy cars, its a waste of our money. Maybe some of those people should try and live on 700.00 or less a month like myself and so many others I know... I am so depressed and worried, will my house be condemed when I can no longer pay my 250.00 a month eletric bill, will I freeze to death like that 82 year old man when I can't pay my heating and it gets shut off,   How will any of this help me......an extra 8 dollars a week will not help!!!!!
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i understand how you feel but you only chioce is to make your own solution maybe you will have to get another job. I don't know but the answer is not to sit and not do anything it is to get up and move foward that is the only what to live. Good luck to you
2/18/2009 12:12:52 PM
angry american by lynn
I'm not a poitical person I usually don't listen to the presidents speaches or any of that stuff, so my opionon on all this may not matter, I do know that the government needs to stop handing out our tax payers money to all the drug addicts and alcholics who choose to not work and buy these things with my hard earned money.  Help is one thing I do believe in help your neighbor, but when my neighbor sleeps all day and party's all night Its time to help myself. Me and my husband both work full time jobs and we do what we can for our kids but we shop at aldi's and goodwill and the dollor stores to get by while my neighbor get food stamps and her kids wear brand  name clothes and have cellphones and handheld games.  My kids get used things and I GO TO WORK EVERYDAY!!!!!!! how is this right and I heard that this stimulas package was go to give them more help.  MAKE THEM WORK FOR THE MONEY CLEANING GUTTERS OR SOMETHING!!!! MAKE THEM EARN WHAT THEY GET like I have to.  The hand out has to stop. I feel so sorry for the older person worried about losing everything the older people already put their time in to make this world a better place we should be taking care of them.
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HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2/19/2009 9:05:02 AM
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yes i compeletly agree
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2/19/2009 11:52:31 PM
real rap by wendell
rule number one it takes money to make money. we are broke and cant get out this problem.brokers had shatted the american dream by conning people and lying to them to by a house and then giving them arms by violating people rights.while republicans are spooking the people.fox and  friends are making it worser then what it is.take  one day at a time and do your awareness and pray and you  will get out off this.ps dont watch fox.america is great so rich people just remember this we the people.  we help you get where your at so return the favor or get out our country.president obama is more advance then any of our formal presidents  and you too. and if you think you can run the world better.then answer me this?why  didnt you run for president ?
 




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on what basis is obama more ADVANCED than any of our FORMER president and me.
2/20/2009 7:57:17 AM
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A true republican that does not have the worries about money that real people do and can go spend 139.00 on nothing.
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2/21/2009 12:42:07 AM
For what it's worth I think... by Rebekah
I think WE as as a whole have helped dig this hole. I'm a single mom with no help and no hand outs. I've tried to do the best i can for and by my daughter. I'm lucky to have the job I have (as a bartender) and not been layed off as so many ppl have. Those who have been don't have the few small hopes I have. My heart hurts for them. I stand by Obama. This isn't a mess he got us in. I stand by my vote and the hope that we will recover. I don't want to stand on a soap box and preach to the choir. That's not my place. I just know we as a whole helped in our own way to get into this mess. It's not all on us. You and I don't control the banks and wallstreet. But I think we can do our own part by living within our means. We don't need the latest and greatest. I believe in this stimulus plan whole heartedly. I know some of it won't work but I think most will. Taking care of schools for OUR children and making jobs to rebuild bridges and roads is a really good thing. Helping those who can work actually work is a good thing, and helping those who can't is too. I have hope for our country. We are The United States of America, the strongest country in the world!!! And we will over come as we always have. This is not the first time we as a country has had to face these problems. I believe in US
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I don't agree with everything you are saying but i do agree that people need to start living within their means.
2/21/2009 10:34:33 PM
by LeeAnn
Obama has only been in office for how long? few months. noone has the answer to the mess that our economy is in. i see alot of comments of how blame is being tossed around and how everyone is complaing, top anaylysts in this country and in others, no one and i mean no one KNOWS how to fix it. the best i can figure is that i am poor and i will still be poor, i will continue to go to work and take care of my kids and pray, like i always have. mostly i feel badly for our elderly and retired. the money they had just was lost in the stock market.
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2/25/2009 12:06:11 AM
GO OBAMA by Felicia
I THINK HE IS GREAT AND HE'LL DO OUR COUNTRY GOOD AND I DON'T CARE IF YOU DON'T AGREE... I really am like all other Americans I pay my taxes and work for everything I own...and yes I did vote for him and I am proud to say that...and you'd never believe I am from the south born and bread here in lower alabama.I love my country...I love my soldiers who defend it...and my president who stands for it...He's spending our money where it needs to go people need to open their mind to the fact that this messes up gov't...look alot of people don't like that we have to pay for all these bail outs but the truth is BUSH did this and alot of you supported him well now you have to pay for what he messed up and so does everyone else...if you supported Bush why in the heck can't you give Obama a chance...
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I don't support bush anymore than i do obama. I think, or at least hope, that they are imperfect men that are trying the best they can they both have downfalls. But what really really bothers men is when people really beleive that the president can save us or break us. The president don't have enough power to do that. Come on you need to stop and realize that you are part of the reason we are in this and you are part of the solution. One make doesn't make it all better. What i really wonder is in 4 years when nothing is any better than it is now, will that make it obamas fault?
2/25/2009 12:13:08 AM
GO OBAMA..jees give him a chance by Felicia
Hey you know what your talking bout...people really do need to realize we all helped cause this now its up to us and Obama to fix it...
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2/25/2009 1:46:20 AM
you change by chris
how can we continue to blame the government?  we see people in need and we criticize them or feel bad for them.  why not help them?  i think if we want to see change it will start with us not being selfish, those that have a little help those that have none.  maybe i am just a young naive man.  this stimulus package wont change a thing because the way our society is!  people will do anything to get over the next guy, unfortunately we as great of nation as we were are being humbled, if we as a person a family a community don't change, how do we think it will get any better?
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2/25/2009 12:37:51 PM
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I agree
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2/25/2009 1:34:11 PM
by keith
I just have one thing to say and that is you can't send your way out of a hole. All you are doing is making it deeper.It may take awhile to dig it deeper so we may not notice it but when we do it will just be worse. We all need to be big boys and girls and take what we have coming for all the stupid mistakes that were made. Big banks that were going to have to do out of business should have gone out of business. If this would have happened you are making way for a new big bank something would have taken its place. the car companies should have gone out of business they were producing the same gas guzzling cars while the price of gas continued to sky rocket. I mean if i don't have to money to pay my bills its not the governments job to do it for me it is only the goverments job to keep order and make sure everyone is obeying the law. and finnally Anyone out there that can fix a money problem by spending more money please let me know how!
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2/25/2009 1:56:58 PM
by keith
i don't have the $800 million dollar to run for president for one. I also want to know one thing from you what exactly makes obama "more advance then any of our formal presidents and you too." Finnally just so you know for the future the way that sentence should read is more ADVANCED than any of our FORMER presidents.
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2/25/2009 2:04:11 PM
by keith
I don't agree with everything you are saying but i do agree that people need to start living within their means.
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2/25/2009 2:11:32 PM
by keith
I don't support bush anymore than i do obama. I think, or at least hope, that they are imperfect men that are trying the best they can they both have downfalls. But what really really bothers men is when people really beleive that the president can save us or break us. The president don't have enough power to do that. Come on you need to stop and realize that you are part of the reason we are in this and you are part of the solution. One make doesn't make it all better. What i really wonder is in 4 years when nothing is any better than it is now, will that make it obamas fault?
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2/25/2009 2:16:28 PM
by keith
on what basis is obama more ADVANCED than any of our FORMER president and me.
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2/25/2009 2:20:14 PM
by
sry i placed the 800 million dollar reply and that reply was suppose to be for the first post on the next page it is not to you SRY.
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2/25/2009 2:26:47 PM
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i love that idea lets march and protest (peacefully of corse) and let the government see where the power really lies. (not just us though we would have to get millions of people) but you let me know the time and the place and i will be there.
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2/25/2009 2:30:30 PM
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i understand how you feel but you only chioce is to make your own solution maybe you will have to get another job. I don't know but the answer is not to sit and not do anything it is to get up and move foward that is the only what to live. Good luck to you
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2/25/2009 2:31:37 PM
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HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2/25/2009 4:14:48 PM
So by John Scott
With that amount of money we could completely payoff 95% of every single mortgage in the U.S. That literally includes every mortgage that is owed right now period. THE END PROBLEM SOLVED. How much of the "Other" part of the package is being pocketed by all the fat democrats that voted for it. You know the only part they read is the part that was put in it for them. Wasn't Obama who said he needed to "Shed the Spending We Don't Need?" I can't wait till this presidency proves the other half of the country that didn't vote for him right. I will SCREAM I TOLD YOU SO!
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2/25/2009 4:26:15 PM
I can't wait by Johnny
With that amount of money we could completely payoff 95% of every single mortgage in the U.S. That literally includes every mortgage that is owed right now period. THE END PROBLEM SOLVED. How much of the "Other" part of the package is being pocketed by all the fat democrats that voted for it. You know the only part they read is the part that was put in it for them. Wasn't Obama who said he needed to "Shed the Spending We Don't Need?" I can't wait till this presidency proves the other half of the country that didn't vote for him right. I will SCREAM I TOLD YOU SO!
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Johny I really which it was that EZ.Bought for it to be EZ it would have to be Honest.Do U think let's TAKE A VOTE FOR JOHNY SITE (I Can't Wait) by johny.OK HOW MANY THINK THEY ACTually read the whole bill. And how many THINK THEY JUST WAIT FOR THE CHECK 'N THE MAIL.Why Should they read the Bill.Maybe That's Why they get paid $250.000 a Yr W/out Benny's all together Grand total $1.0000/Oooop's forgot about FREE EVERYTHING HEALTH/DENTAL/CAR/W/CAR/H.O/W Free Housing.JOHNY Maybe Just Maybe Some patriotism is left .Even Afriacan American's R strating Wonder. OR U TELL ME IS it GONE. JOHN WHAT R we to Believe in If not or own Country. Tell Me John Should of Mccain Won.Damm John Let's get free Health & dental.Just like R Public Servant's HAVE.ONE MORE TIME FREE HEALTH & DENTAL.Thatdoes'nt include car's Housing.Utilitie's.The Working force in america Pay's. For When can r vote count again.SEND UR Email's to The link.(Ican't wait} TY John dzryder@yahoo.com
3/2/2009 8:53:40 PM
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Okay, the elected so called "Leader" can only pass these bill's around the house, and the rest of the house passes them around, and whether they are passed or not, and yes they are changes, but I see one HUGE problem. The people whom work on and write these bills/laws/reforms/changes, or whatever you want to call them. A really important thing in life has been forgotten. When you are fixing someone-else's problem, you don't fix it from your perspective, or their perspective, you have to take a step back, look, and re-assess. When you get stuck in a particular occupation with particular people for 1-10-20 year's, you begin to get narrow minded and work about thing's from the norm perspective. I guess what I'm trying to say is instead of letting the government write our bill's, law's, reform's and such, and then the same people pass them, why don't they propose them to the public, let us vote on them, and if we can't come to an agreement about the law's, take all them, put them together, analyze them with true fact's, revise them, propose them again, and the public vote on them again, and repeat the process until it is resolved. They work for us, we don't work for them. The real deal is that they are only keeping those a-float who provide them with their pension's and weekly check's, which would be us, in a smaller way as a whole, in a larger way in individual large monopolizing corporation's. Why borrow over $800,000,000,000.00 from foreign countries and ourselves when the owner's and CEO's of the companies, plus crooked official's have this kind of money chillin' in their swiss bank account's, their mansion's, fire-proof safe's, car's, summer houses, vacation retreat's, private jet's, stock's, bond's, shit, I could go on for-ever with all of the places these guy's stash their billion's. The sad part is, we are still paying for them to be rich while we have family and friends starving or freezing on the street because we have to choose between food or shelter, no car's, insurance for them or our health, gas money to cruise in or commute to work, clothing, telephone to receive the call from employer you just applied for, college tuition and book's, medicine, glasses or contact's if you need them, $3,000 for a monthly prescription for your average bi-polar person, (most cases are push-off's meaning false diagnosis, or improper diagnosis)
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3/12/2009 6:54:54 PM
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All you democrats need to stop trying to critizie him. You all are the ones that sound like children. it makes you look insecure when you make fun of other people in order to feel superior. Didn't you learn that in elementry?... I completely agree with you. Where is the Tnews reports i've been hearing are getting worse and worse; not better. I just hope that whatever change he promises doesn't crash this country. As said before, we will all go down. And i'm sure one of those people below has children that are going to college or some other form of higher education. I wonder how they are going to pay for it with the way the everything is going...
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7/29/2009 10:54:58 PM
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Hi Brittania/Hope OBahma read's This Brittania/To the point we all got laid off. Some forced into Retirement.The Only People That I Know R pissed About Stimulas Check's R the people that did'nt get any.Understandable. But if I and the 3,o21 co work'ers Did'nt get them. Brittannia It would of Started a complete Braek Down.From home owner's paying there mortgage.To Renter's not being able to rent.THAT'S JUST THE SMALL PART OF THE CIRCLE. I was Praying For just one chance.To pay one more Mo Of Rent.Brittannia I know this goverment well.I believe U do to You should start your own Site. Brittania TY dzryderyahoo.com
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7/29/2009 11:42:15 PM
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Johny I really which it was that EZ.Bought for it to be EZ it would have to be Honest.Do U think let's TAKE A VOTE FOR JOHNY SITE (I Can't Wait) by johny.OK HOW MANY THINK THEY ACTually read the whole bill. And how many THINK THEY JUST WAIT FOR THE CHECK 'N THE MAIL.Why Should they read the Bill.Maybe That's Why they get paid $250.000 a Yr W/out Benny's all together Grand total $1.0000/Oooop's forgot about FREE EVERYTHING HEALTH/DENTAL/CAR/W/CAR/H.O/W Free Housing.JOHNY Maybe Just Maybe Some patriotism is left .Even Afriacan American's R strating Wonder. OR U TELL ME IS it GONE. JOHN WHAT R we to Believe in If not or own Country. Tell Me John Should of Mccain Won.Damm John Let's get free Health & dental.Just like R Public Servant's HAVE.ONE MORE TIME FREE HEALTH & DENTAL.Thatdoes'nt include car's Housing.Utilitie's.The Working force in america Pay's. For When can r vote count again.SEND UR Email's to The link.(Ican't wait} TY John dzryder@yahoo.com
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